The Story Behind Great Taste’s ‘Five Dumplings for a Dollar’ Deal

This Sunset Park eatery is known for dishing up the best dumplings in New York City. So why is its owner, Mr. Chen, barely breaking even?

By Anelise Chen
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Sunset Park is often cited as an example of how immigrant entrepreneurs can revitalize a dying neighborhood. In the 1970s, Eighth Avenue was home to empty storefronts; now, it’s a bustling commercial strip noted more for its crowds and dim sum than crime and blight. (One does not so much stroll as elbow one’s way down the street.) Buoyed up by its mostly Chinese entrepreneurs, Eighth Avenue, auspiciously named, is fulfilling its destiny to prosper—to fa.

So who occupies the prosperous strip these days? To find out, I dialed Great Taste Dumpling (née Prosperity Dumpling), a Sunset Park restaurant known for its “five dumplings for a dollar” deal. Since it opened three years ago, the Eighth Avenue eatery has become a culinary hotspot for hipsters, grad students, and neighborhood foodies. The dumpling house is so popular that people actually travel to eat there.

“Do you have time to share a few thoughts on immigrant entrepreneurship?” I asked the owner, surprised to learn it was he who had answered the phone.

“Call me back at 11 p.m.,” he replied in Chinese. “I’m too busy right now. If you call back in the evening I can talk longer.”

“I’m sorry? Did you say 11 in the evening?

“Yes. I won’t have time to talk until then.” He sounded soft-spoken and friendly, if somewhat sleepy.

It was 1 p.m. His name was Mr. Chen. I told him I would call back in 10 hours.

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The Fiscal Policy Institute recently issued a study that showed that immigrants country-wide were more likely than the general population to become small business owners. Some stats: Eighteen percent of all small business owners were immigrants; 30 percent of recent small business growth was due to immigrants; in New York, 36 percent of all small business owners were immigrants. In other words, immigrant small businesses were great for the city’s economy.

Nevertheless, coverage of the FPI report ranged from exultant to slightly alarmed. How were we to interpret this information? Did the new FPI study show that immigrants weren’t doing all that badly, and were perhaps doing even better than native-born citizens? It seemed conceivable to me that someone might take this information and twist it to mean exactly that.

I wanted to learn more about Mr. Chen, the seemingly successful owner of a popular Sunset Park restaurant, to see how the city was treating its invaluable immigrant entrepreneurs. Were these entrepreneurs living lives of stability and boundless riches? Had they summoned prosperity?

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At 11 p.m., I called Mr. Chen. The same amount of background activity—the clanking of metal trays, a whirring sound, possibly of a kitchen fan—was audible even at this late hour. When did they close?

Sometimes, not until midnight, said Mr. Chen, 41. And did he stay there the entire time? Yes, the entire time, eighteen hours on a normal day.

We resumed our earlier conversation. I spoke haltingly in my vocabulary-deficient Mandarin, but he listened patiently. He did not seem to understand why I wanted to interview him for Open City. Mr. Chen seemed puzzled, and kept asking me to clarify. Finally, he said: “Can you just tell me—why my business? We are such a small business, not a big deal.”

“But you’re one of the most well-known places in New York for dumplings,” I said.

There was a brief silence on the other line, then an incredulous laugh, or a choking sound not unlike a hoarse sob.

“I had no idea,” he almost lamented.

“You don’t know about your reputation online? I asked.

“How can I? I don’t have time to look at the computer. I get home so late, and I wake up so early, I barely have time to sleep. I only sleep five to six hours a day.”

“So you really don’t know that you’re one of the best places in New York to eat dumplings?”

“No.”

“Do you know you’re on Yelp?”

“What?”

“But don’t a lot of  waiguoren (foreigners) eat at your store?”

“Yes, a lot.”

“But you thought they were just walking by?”

“I never thought about it. Once, a waiguoren came and he had printed out something that had our name and phone number and address. That was the only time I knew anything had been written about us.”

It was unbelievable that Mr. Chen was not aware of the hype that had been built up around his business. Last time I checked, Great Taste had been written about on Urbanspoon, Chowhound, the Village Voice, and had, at last count, 579 check-ins on Foursquare (there’s often a line out the door for his dumplings). But even with this new information about his own business, Mr. Chen was still wary. Even though his dumpling bar was a crowd-pleaser, he was barely breaking even. At five dumplings for a dollar, he said, there was no profit to be made. Which is why he clocks the long hours. As for days off? Never, not even on Chinese New Year. And he has kept to this schedule for three years. With the profit they were making, they could only afford to hire two people, and of course, he has to do most of the work himself.

“If we could sell four dumplings for a dollar, then we might make a real profit,” he said. “But at five for a dollar, we are only just surviving. It’s not even for money that we have this deal; it’s just for the advertisement. After we get a strong customer base, then we can consider selling four dumplings for a dollar. Someday, we will be able to sell four.”

Mr. Chen was also worried about their location, which he said received light pedestrian traffic (his restaurant is a little further north from the lively part of Eighth Ave.), and about competition. If he raised the price of his dumplings, he said, he might lose his customers.

Then there’s the actual production cost of the dumplings. A veteran in the restaurant business—he was doing the same thing in Fujian—Mr. Chen promises thin flour dumpling skin—the thinnest possible. And he doesn’t skimp on the meat filling.

“Our ingredients are better; we really work hard on the food. We never use anything that’s bad for you, like MSG. And we only use the best, most expensive kind of sauce. But the customers don’t always sympathize with you. They waste the sauce—they pour it all over everything.”

As we talked, my head was racing. I thought about these minute calculations, and how his quality of life could so dramatically improve if his dumplings cost a nickel more. Could those five cents really add up?

As it turns out, the reality of the immigrant entrepreneur’s experience, despite the studies and statistics that denote success, is this: a lot of hard work and uncertainty. David Kallick, the principal writer of the FPI study, said that immigrant entrepreneurs are sometimes forced into their roles. “Immigrants sometimes have a hard time finding their way into a regular job that pays benefits and has stability, and they start businesses because they have no other choice,” he said. “Sometimes there’s a happy ending to that story. Sometimes it works out better for them. Sometimes it doesn’t.” Many scholars have also noted that immigrants choose self-employment because language barriers and discrimination have historically blocked upward mobility for non-natives.

“Can you imagine? Our dumplings are as cheap as plain rice,” said Mr. Chen.

At the end of our conversation, we talked about his 14-year-old son, and Mr. Chen’s hopes for his future.

“As a father you always want your child to surpass you,” he said. “Maybe someone’s father was a farmer, and then his son became a business owner. I hope my son becomes someone better than me. I don’t know what that will be, but I hope it will be better.”

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Great Taste Dumpling
4317 8th Avenue (between 44th & 43rd streets), Brooklyn
(718) 436-2516

Anelise Chen covers Sunset Park as Open City's Creative Nonfiction Fellow. She earned her MFA in fiction at NYU. Born in Taipei and raised in Los Angeles, she lives in Manhattan Chinatown.

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  1. Now I’ll have to make the trek to enjoy these dumplings. I’d pay $1 for 4 delicious dumplings but maybe similarly low paid Chinese immigrants in the neighborhood would hesitate, feeling their dollar was losing value. It’s hard. For many people the margins are so tight, pennies actually make a difference, which is the point of your article. I hope Mr. Chen can raise his prices without losing his clientele.

    Though it’s fiction, Ha Jin’s novel A Free Life illustrates how difficult it is to make a decent living running a small business (a restaurant in this case) because the profit margins are so small. It’s a heartbreaking work but I think it gets to the heart of this experience.

    • Hi Adalena,
      Yes, I agree that it’s hard. Only he can make the decision to up the price when he feels ready. We would willingly pay 4 for $1…but would his regulars? There’s another dumpling bar just a few blocks away–it’s slightly more expensive and also doing quite well–so the competition is fierce. He’s convinced it’s more important to retain volume at this point. Maybe all the support he’s received with this article will convince him that it’ll be okay!

  2. Its a shame so many people, whether immigrants or citizens, have a hard time earning money. What’s more surprising is how Chinese immigrants are treated by citizens, both Chinese and Non-Chinese. For businesses like Mr. Chen, I hope they get more publicity and earn more money so they can live a bit more comfortable, and feel more appreciated.

    Community events showcasing Chinese business and culture would be a good way to bring a more diverse crowd to certain neighborhoods and raise cultural awareness. Maybe then will most of the stereotypes against Chinese immigrants be transformed.

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  4. This was an inspiring story. I live nearby in Bay Ridge Brooklyn, and I know how tough it is for immigrants. They work extremely hard to make ends meet and struggle everyday for their families, like Mr. Chen, who wants to provide more for his son. I have a lot to say about this subject, and I have my own blog and used this story in my latest post: http://www.cindytrinh.com/?p=190. I am not a spammer I promise, just wanted to share my thoughts on the subject, especially in light of Mitt Romney’s latest remarks about the 47%. Thanks for the great article, hope to read a lot more good stuff on here soon.

  5. I’d actually never heard of this place before, which is a shame because I live just a few stops away from Sunset Park. Out of curiosity, is this now-former Prosperity Dumpling somehow attached to the one in Manhattan Chinatown? Because the Manhattan location is my go-to spot for dumplings (and hot and sour soup).

    Those dumplings look delicious and I’ll have to visit this place some time. Hopefully Mr. Chen will be able to sell them at four for $1 soon. It’s almost criminal how cheap good-quality Chinese food is sold for in these Chinatowns.

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